DISQUS

Stay N' Alive: Twitter Declares Checkmate on Twitter Gamers

  • Blair · 6 months ago
    I have never been one to follow "The Game", but I do auto-follow people who follow me. In the last few months I have amassed nearly 500 followers through casual tweeting of good content (I've posted less then 200 updates in a few months). I personally feel that it's about time Twitter took this stand.
  • Jesse Stay · 6 months ago
    Blair, I share your own style. Content is King.
  • dave · 6 months ago
    Problem is that Twitter is the *worst* offender here with the Suggested User List. I'm watching a NY Times columnist, who was added to the list last week, leapfrog all his competition. It's changed the way he posts (he openly says that).

    How long before these gamers privately start paying people who are on the SUL to point to them?

    What are the editorial guidelines for people on the SUL?

    And why would Twitter want to enter this space? (They will eventually have to publish guidelines for SUL members.)
  • Jesse Stay · 6 months ago
    Dave, while I see the SUL as an unfair feature of Twitter, I don't quite see
    how this is the same thing. What Twitter did in this case is they're
    now starting to suspend accounts that rapidly follow and unfollow
    numerous accounts in a short period of time.
    I don't see how the SUL fits into this.
  • dave · 6 months ago
    I expanded on my comment in this post:

    http://www.scripting.com/stories/2009/06/19/twi...

    Hopefully this sheds some light on the connection.
  • Jesse Stay · 6 months ago
    Thanks for writing that Dave. I'm absorbing it now.
  • F. Andy Seidl · 6 months ago
    I agree with you on the SUL.

    In the very early days of Twitter, the SUL idea could have made sense to help catalyze Twitter adoption. But that is not longer necessary. Now the SUL is nothing more than a significant playing-field-un-leveler. It is analogous to Google displaying a "Suggested Web Sites" that points to a fixed list of hand picked web sites with no particular relevance to what people are searching for.
  • Steffan Antonas · 6 months ago
    Dave, I just read the post on your blog, as well as the news on ReadWriteWeb.

    Isn't it obvious why Twitter would want to enter the SUL space? It's obvious PR for them and the timing of the presentation to new Twitter users who sign up is critical - The majority of the users who are on the SUL are celebrities, so people who are "figuring out" Twitter are immediately presented with celebrity endorsement of the platform (even though it's disguised as Twitter's endorsement of celebrities). Am I wrong? I thought this was an obvious marketing ploy?
  • Steffan Antonas · 6 months ago
    Additional thoughts on the connection made between the SUL and the way Twitter's actions are framed - http://bit.ly/27aMl
  • richrecruiter · 6 months ago
    It's about time Twitter put an end to this game.
  • sw00p · 6 months ago
    If they get on top of this, we might not need to have an auto-block service (along the lines of a spam look-up/UBL for e-mail). I am getting tired of blocking all these "social media gurus" and MLM douchebags that seem to follow based only on some brain dead keyword script.
  • David · 6 months ago
    Very good move by Twitter and about time. These people are not interested in the social side of social media and I will be quite happy to see their accounts banned.

    People collecting followers this way are just spammers as far as I'm concerned - I have no interest in this nonsense. It is always obvious who they are and anyone that follows them back is crazy.
  • Webomatica · 6 months ago
    Ah, rats... I thought this post was about Twitter putting a halt to games like Spymaster :)
  • Jim Connolly · 6 months ago
    Nice post Jesse,

    After reading your post, I checked and the two best known 'twitter gamers' still have active accounts and seem to be adding new followers (according to twitterholic and twittercounter.com.

    What exactly are Twitter doing to stop them gaming the system?

    Jim Connolly
  • Jesse Stay · 6 months ago
    Jim, you can always report them to @spam and I'm sure they'll be looked
    at. In the end it's Twitter's decision. Also, the more people that
    block them the more chances their accounts will be flagged.
  • Jim Connolly · 6 months ago
    Thanks Jesse,

    I assumed form your post that Twitter were actually proactively doing to stop them gaming Twitter.
  • Jesse Stay · 6 months ago
    Jim, they say they are. How they're defining that, I don't know. They also
    can only do it with the resources they have.
  • CassieTuttle · 6 months ago
    Glad to hear this. For a while there, I kept getting notification that one guy was following me; I must have received 20 e-mails alerting me to the fact that he was following me.

    Unfortunately, you're probably right: there will always be people who find ways to manipulate and abuse.

    By the way, in the name of your blog, "Stay N' Alive," what is the N' short for? "No" is the only word I can come up with .... Just curious. :-)
  • Jesse Stay · 6 months ago
    Cassie, the "N" is short for "and"
  • Maurice (TheCaymanHost) · 6 months ago
    I assumed it was meant to be Stayin' Alive, "stay and alive" doesn't make sense does it...?

    Just being pedantic sorry. On the subject of your post, very interesting reading that's going to have quite an impact on users of some of the tools you mention. They don't come cheap either. I think that used with care, things like Hummingbird can be very beneficial, but too many people want "a gazillion followers right now" so they can bombard them with futile sales messages and they just end up upsetting the apple cart.
  • Jesse Stay · 6 months ago
    It is a reference to Stayin' Alive, yes. The Stay and Alive isn't supposed
    to fully make sense.
  • CassieTuttle · 6 months ago
    Okay, cool. Got it. So it's ... " Stay and Alive."

    But in that case, I think you mean 'n' (apostrophe before and after the n) -- not N' (an apostrophe just after the n).

    An apostrophe indicates the omission of a letter. One letter.

    Also, since "and" is a conjunction in your title, no need to capitalize it.

    (Sorry. It's the uncontrollable grammar geek in me.)
  • sidburgess · 6 months ago
    I 100% disagree that Twitter is in the wrong for the SUL. They are in the biz of expanding their company. This is no difference than Dell choosing to raise it's prices in order to keep the doors open. Twitter has investors, deadlines, risks, challenges. Wooing high profile users would and should be high on their list. Just like Facebook giving vanity URL's to news organizations, etc before you got yours.

    I am very interested in Twitter being successful and don't really care that some NYT reporter has more followers than me. Remember, Twitter was not created as a business tool, but rather a way for people to stay in touch. If Twitter's rules don't create the perfect business environment, how have they lost? Will you stop using Twitter? Doubt it.

    On the flip side, sure... if I was a reporter, and I was competing against the NYT reporter it might make me a little frustrated... but then when I look out my window I see a world filled with frustrating turns. Not having more followers than the next guy, isn't one of the daily grinds I am going to let ruffle my feathers.

    There are tons of people on Twitter who never have received the red carpet treatment. Why? Content content content. Shaq had his following a long time ago because he tweets and tweets often, interesting material. I think that most people who are upset at the SUL program are simply looking for a get rich quick scheme through Twitter and are only upset because their Gravitar isn't on that list. My .02 cents. (sorry for the ramble, guess I have just heard enough grips on the SUL finally.) Bravo Blair for providing great content! What is your Twitter addy so I can follow you?
  • minou30 · 4 months ago
    I'm a twitter developer-- have a white listed IP-- but can't figure out where to find and how to join the twitter developers mailing list you refer to? Can you let me know? Thanks.
  • Jesse Stay · 4 months ago
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=twitter+developers+list
    It's the first result returned - hope that helps! :-)
  • Theclashblog · 3 months ago
    Brilliant about time....now the twitter muppets can be eradicated !!